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#1 User is offline   Sheffields Finest 

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Posted 06 November 2015 - 09:11 PM

José Mourinho received a stadium ban for Saturday's trip to Stoke City after twice refusing to leave the referee Jon Moss's dressing room at Upton Park last month and angrily accusing the officials of being "f***ing weak".

The Football Association published the written reasons for Mourinho's one-match stadium ban and £40,000 fine, issued after he was sent to the stands by Moss for the second half of Chelsea's 2-1 defeat at West Ham on 25 October, on Friday evening. The three-man disciplinary commission had taken into account the Portuguese's previous record, noting four monetary sanctions imposed for misconduct since his return to England in 2013, when determining he would become the first Premier League manager to be banned from the stadium on match-day since Alan Pardew early last year.

The reasons include the publication of Moss' report on the West Ham fixture, submitted to the FA, which quotes the official as writing: "When myself and my colleagues left the field of play at half-time, as we entered the tunnel area to get to our dressing room, Mr Mourinho the Chelsea manager was waiting for us clearly agitated and began aggressively asking about first half decisions. Rather than publicly speak to him I asked him to step into the entrance of my dressing room escorted by Simon Sutton, the West Ham United Security Manager.


"Mr Mourinho asked me about a tackle, an offside and a goal-line clearance. I gave him brief answers to his questions. After this I asked him to leave the dressing room area. He refused. I asked him again. After he refused again I asked Mr Sutton to escort him from the room. At this point Mr Mourinho became very aggressive and animated. He shouted that you f***ing referees are weak... [Arsène] Wenger is right about you... you are f***ing weak. I advised Mr Mourinho not to take his position in the technical area for the second half due to his actions."

The incidents mentioned appeared to be Nemanja Matic's challenges, which saw the Serb dismissed for two bookable offences just before the break, a goal ruled out for offside against Cesc Fàbregas and a header from Kurt Zouma which, according to goalline technology, did not cross the line. The assistant referees and fourth official backed up Moss' report with similar observations of the behaviour and language used by the Chelsea manager, with Sutton eventually having escorted the Portuguese away. He watched the second half from the back of the directors' box as his team lost 2-1.

Mourinho had admitted the charge and, while the commission considered that to be to his credit, they bemoaned "a total lack of respect for the Match Officials and the sanctuary of their changing room", adding: "That is a most serious matter and has to be dealt with accordingly." The manager's previous disciplinary record suggested to them that a monetary fine alone would not dissuade him from a repeat in future, prompting them to consider a touchline or extended touchline ban.

"But given the location in which the offence was committed and the limitations of a touchline ban, namely that Mr Mourinho would still be permitted to be in or around the dressing room areas during the match day, we did not consider a touchline ban to be sufficient," added the commission in the written reasons. "To only order a touchline ban would have the potential of enabling Mr Mourinho to commit a similar offence whilst serving his suspension since he would be allowed to access the area around the changing rooms. We considered a stadium ban to be the appropriate sporting sanction for the offence committed by Mr Mourinho."

As a result Mourinho – who confirmed on Friday he had opted against appealing the sanction – will not be permitted to enter the Britannia Stadium on Saturday, or to enter or use any facilities on the site of the ground. Likewise, he will be unable to take up a position immediately outside the perimeter of the stadium "that enables him to have a direct view of the field of play". The manager has yet to determine where he will watch the game, which is live on television on Saturday evening.


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Posted 07 November 2015 - 01:28 AM

Good ruling.

Is Mourinho expecting that this kind of behaviour will help his team be more successful?

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Posted 09 November 2015 - 06:18 PM

The only way to deal with this in the Premiership is not fines or bans but:

POINTS DEDUCTIONS

If this came in as a rule the behaviour would improve in days. Bans and money are not important but POINTS decide your European fate next season.

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Posted 09 November 2015 - 06:19 PM

I don't believe in punishing the rest of the club and the fans for his behavior.

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Posted 09 November 2015 - 09:52 PM

View PostDanny-r, on 09 November 2015 - 06:19 PM, said:

I don't believe in punishing the rest of the club and the fans for his behavior.

Why not? It is what grassroots football does as a penalty for problems with the club. We can't fine to the extent of the Premiership, leaving points deductions as our only weapon.

Teams quickly get rid of players / officials who cost them points. Managers would start showing respect if 3 points were deducted.

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Posted 09 November 2015 - 10:16 PM

View Postlincs22, on 09 November 2015 - 09:52 PM, said:

Why not? It is what grassroots football does as a penalty for problems with the club. We can't fine to the extent of the Premiership, leaving points deductions as our only weapon.

Teams quickly get rid of players / officials who cost them points. Managers would start showing respect if 3 points were deducted.


Does that happen though? I have the FA discipline handbook in front of me and I can see no provisions for points deductions for discipline related offences. The only reason I can see points being deducted from grass roots teams is failure to fulfil games.

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Posted 09 November 2015 - 10:52 PM

View PostRustyRef, on 09 November 2015 - 10:16 PM, said:

Does that happen though? I have the FA discipline handbook in front of me and I can see no provisions for points deductions for discipline related offences. The only reason I can see points being deducted from grass roots teams is failure to fulfil games.


1990/91 Manchester United 1 point deducted for bringing the game into disrepute

I don't think that you would ever get bored at a match between Manchester United and Arsenal and that was certainly true when the two sides met at Old Trafford in a First Division match on October 20th 1990. The 'Battle of Old Trafford' - or is that one of many 'Battles of Old Trafford!' - erupted when a clash between Arsenal's Nigel Winterburn and United's Brian McClair developed into a full-scale brawl involving 21 players, only Arsenal's 'keeper David Seaman watching on. As a result both clubs were charged with, and found guilty of, bringing the game into disrepute. Manchester United were docked one point and Arsenal - because they had been involved in a similar brawl the previous season against Norwich - lost two points.

Never say never Rusty!! :lol:/>

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Posted 10 November 2015 - 12:10 AM

View Postlincs22, on 09 November 2015 - 09:52 PM, said:

Why not? It is what grassroots football does as a penalty for problems with the club. We can't fine to the extent of the Premiership, leaving points deductions as our only weapon.

Teams quickly get rid of players / officials who cost them points. Managers would start showing respect if 3 points were deducted.


I'm aware of several occasions in which fines have been included in disciplinary proceedings and I'm pretty sure that, last time I read the disciplinary handbooks, there are remits for fines to be used alongside match bans.

A report I submitted lead to a club been fined 100 and that amount of money pretty much caused them to fold as most clubs at Sunday league level are run at covering their costs, if not a loss some of the time. None of them could afford 100 out of their own pocket.

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